What are we to do with Gentiles and tax collectors? Point them to Christ. Jesus ate with them to bring them to Himself. Preusumably, they wanted to hear what Jesus had to say. Jesus didn't force them there. If they didn't want to be there He just let them go. We are to love the "Gentiles and tax collectors" - not shun. We are to pray for the lost. Forgiveness is also in order, but we don't give them the opportunity to do it to us again.
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Why I think Jesus spoke against Organized Religion
by sabastious inthis is going to be a short essay on a point i have been thinking about for a while now.. jesus explicitly stated in the gospels not to judge.
i think this a grossly overlooked statement from jesus from the witnesses and a lot of christian denominations.. judging could be defined as figuring out what's right or wrong for another person.
it's a pretty simple concept really, and jesus warned against it.. organized religion by definition creates doctrine and policy, some enforce them more than others (like the witnesses).. to create (or interpret) doctrine and initialize policy is to judge others.
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Tribute to David Silas Thomas 6/11/68 - 9/16/10
by FlyingHighNow inremember davids words.
tell me david, whats the answer?
remember davids words.
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FHN, I send you my best wishes.
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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I see, you have to go to a post that came after your "worked up" comment to show that I was worked up in the first place. Hmmm...
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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Ok, so what was the point of the joke? What was its relavance to my post?
Worked up?
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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Mad Dawg previously said:
I have no problem with the sign whatsoever.
Bohm said:
Mad Dawg: its just so silly you get worked up about richard dawkins spreading atheist arguments.. try to explain why you feel there is something "wrong" (or whatever word you want to use, im just guessing) in Richard Dawkins trying to argue his case.
Worked up? Are you kidding? Something "wrong"? What part of "I have no problem with the sign whatsoever" don't you understand? Did you miss the part where I said: "He has every right to post it"? I really, truly don't care if atheists evangelize. But, don't lie to me that they don't evangelize. From what I have seen, atheists get just as worked up as Baptists about the other doing evangelism.
Did you notice the part in your video about rehearsing your own prejudices?
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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I have no problem with the sign whatsoever. He has every right to post it as you said. But don't tell me that atheists don't evangelize. I defy you to show me where I said he didn't have that right to free speach.
Why the bold? What are you upset about? Why are you reading into my statements things that are simply not there? Are you doing that mental narrative thing the video you posted warned about?
Ya know, you really do come across in your last post as rather, Ummm... angry.
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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Mad Dawg
Remember folks, the picture above is not an attempt to evangelize or persuade anyone to believe anything but what they already do.
In fact, here is another calm, dispassionate statement that the Bible condones abusing women by Jeff Schweitzer on the homepage for Richard Dawkins. Remember, this is NOT an attempt to convert, deconvert, or evangelize in any manner. The author is not trying to convince you of anything.
Perhaps most striking is that slavery, incest, rape, polygamy and misogyny are fully condoned and encouraged by god. Literally. In Genesis 4:19, we are told that Jacob had two wives; Solomon was busier with 700; and this was before Viagra. In Genesis 16:2, Sarah gave permission to Abraham, her husband, to have sex with her maid, Hagar. Of course since Hagar was a maid... yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.
Why does Jeff fail to distinguish between reporting events and condoning events? I defy any of you to show me where God condones the above events. In fact, we find that there were grave consequences for the actions reported in the above paragraph. I can only think of two reasons for such a skewed view: 1) Ignorance 2) Malevolence. And you want me to take this stuff seriously?
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Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?
by leavingwt injohn w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.
are we angry atheists?.
.. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.
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Two people walk into a room and see another person, with a knife in their hand, standing over a dead guy. One person assumes that the person with the knife killed the dead fellow. The other assumes that he found the guy with the knife in him and pulled it out in an effort to save him. Obviously, one is right and one is wrong. Does that mean that one is rational and one is irrational?
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Help me become a real CRAZY FUNDIE ATHEIST parent!
by bohm inhello friends!.
once in a while you hear about fundie atheists, and i have desided to become one.
but i need a bit of advice.. you see, apparently the fundie atheists are as messed up as their worst religious "fundie" counterparts, so i got some expectations to live up to.. i have desided to focus on how i should raise my child, since the religious dickery i hate the most has to do with how children are raised.
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Bohm said:
Mad Dawg: But at the end of the day, I could also speculate that some "fundie christians" might crucify their children to show them what christ went through, but thats hardly very on-topic either since to the best of my knowledge no christians actually do that, and it would only reflect my rather sick imagination and prejustice!!!
What is your problem? I agreed with you 100%, without reservation, in my last post. If somehting doesn't apply why not say so and move on? Why are you still harping on it?
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Help me become a real CRAZY FUNDIE ATHEIST parent!
by bohm inhello friends!.
once in a while you hear about fundie atheists, and i have desided to become one.
but i need a bit of advice.. you see, apparently the fundie atheists are as messed up as their worst religious "fundie" counterparts, so i got some expectations to live up to.. i have desided to focus on how i should raise my child, since the religious dickery i hate the most has to do with how children are raised.
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Bohm said:
The second is scaring kids with pictures of abortions in order to serve an agenda. I think the last part is wrong because i think children should be shielded from such images.
I agree 100%. You asked what you could do that would be the equivalent of what religious nuts do, and I offered some suggestions. As I said, it is not about me.
